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If Debian is arguably more stable than Gentoo, why isn't it used on the VM servers? --[[User:Trey Repetski|Trey Repetski]] 12:33, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
 
If Debian is arguably more stable than Gentoo, why isn't it used on the VM servers? --[[User:Trey Repetski|Trey Repetski]] 12:33, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
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:For starters they're already that way for the most part and also we can make it very stable since it'll have one image for all the VM servers. Also you could argue Gentoo goes faster. Personally I wouldn't mind Debian. [[User:Peter Godofsky|Peter Godofsky]] 15:00, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
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::Your plan shows Gentoo as being the OS for the dom0s, which is different than what we have now. Also, how does having one image for all VM servers cause it to become stable? Wouldn't that just mean if you had an unstable image, then all VM servers would be equally unstable? --[[User:Trey Repetski|Trey Repetski]] 15:33, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
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:::Well yes, but we could test it more than something for an individual VM. Also xen-lenny is old and not very good. [[User:Peter Godofsky|Peter Godofsky]] 15:38, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
  
 
And why can't we use Gentoo for VMs, given that we have the cluster available to us? If it were to have cross-compiling support (I don't know whether it does or not), it could be used for emerge operations on any of our VMs or VM hosts. Also, citation needed on the "more stable" statement. [[User:Christopher Reffett|Chris Reffett]] 14:31, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
 
And why can't we use Gentoo for VMs, given that we have the cluster available to us? If it were to have cross-compiling support (I don't know whether it does or not), it could be used for emerge operations on any of our VMs or VM hosts. Also, citation needed on the "more stable" statement. [[User:Christopher Reffett|Chris Reffett]] 14:31, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
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:It's on a rolling release and it's more complex. Furthermore it would be difficult to maintain that many images. We also don't want to be compiling on domUs. Don't get hung up on the less stable or not as easy bits, focus on the big picture. The issue we're really trying to work out is storage, not operating system. Operating systems are listed because I think we should have a map of the entire system from top to bottom in order to get a complete picture. [[User:Peter Godofsky|Peter Godofsky]] 15:00, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

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Note that this is not Wikipedia so "No Original Research" does not apply for several reasons.

If Debian is arguably more stable than Gentoo, why isn't it used on the VM servers? --Trey Repetski 12:33, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

For starters they're already that way for the most part and also we can make it very stable since it'll have one image for all the VM servers. Also you could argue Gentoo goes faster. Personally I wouldn't mind Debian. Peter Godofsky 15:00, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
Your plan shows Gentoo as being the OS for the dom0s, which is different than what we have now. Also, how does having one image for all VM servers cause it to become stable? Wouldn't that just mean if you had an unstable image, then all VM servers would be equally unstable? --Trey Repetski 15:33, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
Well yes, but we could test it more than something for an individual VM. Also xen-lenny is old and not very good. Peter Godofsky 15:38, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

And why can't we use Gentoo for VMs, given that we have the cluster available to us? If it were to have cross-compiling support (I don't know whether it does or not), it could be used for emerge operations on any of our VMs or VM hosts. Also, citation needed on the "more stable" statement. Chris Reffett 14:31, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

It's on a rolling release and it's more complex. Furthermore it would be difficult to maintain that many images. We also don't want to be compiling on domUs. Don't get hung up on the less stable or not as easy bits, focus on the big picture. The issue we're really trying to work out is storage, not operating system. Operating systems are listed because I think we should have a map of the entire system from top to bottom in order to get a complete picture. Peter Godofsky 15:00, 16 June 2009 (EDT)